You can install Google Play Services as a sandboxed app on GrapheneOS. That’s not the issue. I believe the issue is that Google will use hardware attestation to check if the OS you’re running it on is Google-approved.
The Recaptcha QR code verification does work on GrapheneOS for now and there is a standard select the swuares fallback. Recaptcha is also entirely optional for a website and they can easily pick any competitor like hCaptcha if they want.
For a decade or two now, it’s been pretty much assumed that everyone has an internet-connected, camera-equipped, browser-capable device in their pocket. Restaurants, banks, hospitals, employers and even government offices use QR codes and websites to get you to their menus, forms or services.
If ID is being tied to my mobile spy device, then I need my mobile spy device to be a right and not a luxury. $40-50 for a few years of validity, internet access provided at no cost, even if slow. I can have my luxury phone be where I’m ‘anonymous’, but I want the government to subsidize the mobile spy device if it’s a mandatory expense. Even cheap phones cost a lot of money.
To be clear, I don’t want ID tied to my phone, but it’s gotten harder to exist without one, so it should be something we have access to with minimal friction.
Add food, water and shelter to that list, but you can’t ask for them without a web browser.
Sites need to stop using recaptcha. It’s an unnecessary barrier to using a site and I often refuse out of principle.
eww recaptcha,spyware piece of shit.
If google requires me to permit other companies to leech all my personal data to be able to use anything on the Internet at all, I say we label Google, Microsoft, Apple as criminal organizations
I’m sorry, bit there have to be limits.
I. DO. NOT. WANT. TO. USE. ANYTHING. GOOGLE.
OR APPLE. OR MICROSOFT.
FUCK ALL THESE OLIGARCH COMPANIES INTO THE GROUND
I do not want my private data leeches and sold every day, I don’t even get paid for it
Most of the time, my phone’s browser is disabled. It keeps me from using my phone too much. I understand not everyone is in a position where they can do that though.
Or even want that…
After reading a bunch of books about our relationship with technology, I concluded it’s probably best that I greatly reduce my reliance on my phone. A big part of how I accomplish that is just by using my laptop for things that I can’t cut out entirely, like banking, email, web browsing, etc.
i never switched to preferring my phone over my laptop, so my laptop has always remained my primary means of interacting with people (ie text messages & phone calls) and social media and it’s taught me that it disconnects you in strange ways from the zeitgeist of today world in ways that are so subtle that they’re easy to miss and they add up over time.
I uninstalled Tik Tok almost 2 years ago and have heavily restricted my other social media usage since. Programming.dev (and the extended Lemmyverse) is the biggest cheat I permit myself. I do still waste more time scrolling than I want, but through it, I’ve been exposed to things that I feel make my life richer. And it is a lot less soul-crushing than commercial platforms that are jam packed with AI slop and are designed to be addicting.
That said, with I no longer have a way to keep up with trends and my main source of news is my wife, who is still plugged into TikTok. And honestly, I think I’m better off that way. I have way more time to read (and engage in other long-form content) and spend with my kids. I’m exposed to way less propaganda and outrage content. Looking back on days with 9+ hours spent on TikTok, it feels like I was part of a hive mind. I like being an individual again.
tiktok is especially interesting when you use it on a laptop compared to a phone; a lot of the features like reposting videos and following people don’t always work so i have to implement work arounds to do both and it sometimes feels like going back to 1995 since my workarounds involve text messages. lol
Which websites does this actually affect? I use GrapheneOS and I’ve yet to be affected by this, granted I don’t use many mainstream services.
I dont think its been rolled out quite yet.
All these captchas just make me evaluate effort vs need. Facebook throws a captcha every time because I log in from a private window. Before it just gave me a warning unrelated to my interests. I mostly use facebook for work, and those sweet lawnmowing videos. If they keep it up I will only log in for work.
Last time I attempted to log into Facebook it gave me a captcha where it wanted me to select which stone pillar had x number of stones in an AI generated photo. I could never get it right, so I cut my losses and have not gone back.
To anyone not switching because of this-- in my experience this is something I can work around. On most websites my captchas still work. I have had a few that dont work, and I just close the website and move on. It hasn’t happened on any websites that are very important for me to visit. Usually its a store and they really me to install their stupid app. Nope.
They should be fined so hard for this shit.
A fine is brushed off in a quarter. They should be forced to split into seperate companies.
And forced to open-source their OS’es. And have to make their communities owned by the people instead of corpos. We are all beyond pissed and done with their shit. Everyone get more people on board into the movement daily to be focused on getting things done together!! Keep each other in the fight with online and in-person communities
Every company that uses these captcha service should also be fined so hard. This isnt just google here.
This is really bad even just from the perspective of user behavior. Training people to scan QR codes from anything that looks like a captcha box is HORRIBLE for security.
“Thanks for scanning the code, just one more step! Please input your phone number, and type in the code you receive.”
Boom, account stolen.
And the phone number thing is already happening too. Google, discord and probably other stuff already ask for a phone number to prove you are a human when they flag your account.
It’s a server setting. one of my oldest servers has enabled this and I haven’t chatted with anyone there anymore because I need to verify my phone first.
It’s almost like they don’t really care about your security…
well, I guess i will stop using those websites from my /e/os fairphone
And nothing of value was lost. I’m over social media, over commercial apps, and maybe I’m over having a mobile phone, too.
What they are doing is way worse tban what you understood.
These QR codes will show on your Desktop PC and you will need an Android phone or an iOS device with a logged in Google QR code app to get past it.
so they are not only tracking you, but they are trying to reconnect your records across multiple devices.
And through the VPN
I wouldn’t scan shit from a website. Random QR codes are a security risk. Just won’t visit that website.
That’s why you have to use the special google app that will protect you from all these dangers*
*and also collect all your data, sell it to advertisers and forward it to US surveillance agencies (for your own protection of course).
Sad thing is, that argument works against so many ppl. “I can trust this app. It’s from Google!”
We(*) are tearing down personal computing. Brick by brick. The very idea of controling our own devs is getting lost. Replacing with Big Tech Feudalism.
(*) Not most of us here. But in the whole pop.
Eventually privacy minded people like us will have to start creating and visiting sites on the dark web.
Let’s hope the EU prevents this from happening. We should be able to access every site we wish without Google’s permission.
The EU is busily building the Fourth Reich, so don’t expect help from there.
LOL, whatever you’re taking, stop, it’s doing your brain in! :D
The ongoing battle against online privacy is a symptom of capitalism, the EU is a capitalist state. The only thing the EU would ever do against US-based capitalism is to gobble up those capital gains for themselves. It doesn’t matter if it happes or not, the privacy-issues for end-users would never be alleviated by the EU.
I should be good with sandboxed Google play.
But wtf we’ll need a phone to solve captchas now? What happens if you don’t have one?
